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, president obama won it four years ago, governor romney has won it this time. it is not a surprise, though. we were expecting governor romney to take indiana. kentucky, this is a very red state and governor romney has taken kentucky, as well, tonight. and vermont, a very blue state weighing in early and president obama, abc news, based on the exit polls is ready to project a winner in vermont right now. let's tell you aboutther states. we have too little information to make a projection. georgia, a red state, bill clinton won in 1992, but no other republican or every republican has won since then and south carolina, solid red state, not enough information to project at this point, so -- and virginia, this is a big one, george, and we do not have enough information at this moment. we are watching it every single moment. we'll bring you the news as we have it. >> that is the biggest surprise so far. a must win for mitt romney. the overall map. as you said no big surprises right now. a lot of votes outstanding but the polls are closing. the race could not be closer. both 2012 stavote 2012 sta
to the post election coverage. president obama winning the electoral and popular vote and including of the battle ground states. florida still too close to call right now. people voted late in the night and officials still ned to count the absentee ballots. >> steve: hispanics in colorado voted three-one and giving him colorado. he also took the state of iowa 52-46 for romney. >> brian: we thought that was going to be closer. all important state of ohio. this was neck and neck . it was the bellweather. union household incrosed support to the by five points . not a surprise. comny won north carolina which obama took last time around. mitt romney was able to grab. virge rirge and florida isn't in his column. >> gretchen: half of wisconsin voters have a favorable opinion of paul ryan, it was not enough to give romney a win. he lost his home state. >> brian: that was a dominant win in wisconsin. >> steve: despite the push in pennsylvania. voters gave the 20 electoral vote to president obama. >> brian: what happened to dead heat and too close to call. pennsylvania, president obama got ou
of the newspaper's. usa today -- obama triumphs, midwest is key, political divide remains. years the wall street journal, obama wins. and the washington times, obama wins second term. and the new york times, obama is a night. it talks romney for a second term in a bruising run. and washington post, a second term. here is your turn to weigh in on what happened last night. we want to hear from you. the numbers are on the screen. democrats -- 202-585-3880. republicans -- 202-585-3881. independents. 202-585-3882. you can send us a tweet @cspanwj. you can make a comment on our facebook page,.,com/cspan. and if you make the comment under the posting that says the president has been reelected. your thoughts, we will get to those quickly. here are some updated results. >> but this take a look at how you want. according to ap exit polls, hispanics and women carried him to victory in that state. in colorado, 77% of voters said the economy top of their list, but one and two blend george w. bush for the economy. and i welcome it shattered their 2008 early voting record -- in iowa, they shattered their 2008
president obama did win four years ago. that's a turnover. 5% of the votes in but the model suggests to us it is good gh to mitt romney according to the "fox news" decision team has won the state of indiana. "fox news" also projects governor romney will win in the bluegrass state kentucky with 4% of all precincts reporting. 2/3 of all voters are voting "fox news" ney and projects romney wins kentucky. outh too close to call in s carolina. none of the precincts are can project t we president obama will win in the state of vermont. six states where the polls have just closed. we've made calls in two of them. and in the others we can't yet make a call but they'll come. three important senate races among those that have just called. we have three in virginia, democrats are trying to hold tant seat.por for now that race is too close to call between kain and allen. this senate race will give us a lot of information about the way voters were pushed and pulled. there is a third party candidate in here who may or may not he had some effect on the presidential race as it relates specifically to virg
cbs news projects will go to governor romney. and so far tonight we have projected president obama the winner of the state of vermont. that is all we have at the moment. all the other state state wheree polls have closed we simply don't have enough information yet to make a projection on those states. will barack obama get a second term? or will mitt romney become the 45th president? will the democrats be able to hold on to the senate or will the republicans take control? we're about to find out. it's election night on cbs. changes and i'm going to bring it to this country. >> the stock market has rebounded. our assembly lines are humming again. we are moving forward! >> i want more jobs! my priority is jobs, jobs, jobs! >> i don't want your vote because of what i have done, i want your vote because of what i'm going to do. >> this campaign is growing, the momentum is building. >> in america our destiny is not written for us, it's written by us. >> three more days and we can get to work building our country. >> in two days america's got a choice to make. >> one final push and we'll
. a closely fought campaign between president barack obama, and mitt romney, the former massachusetts governor, has come down to this night when tens of millions of voters finally have their say. >> ifill: it's just after 8:00 eastern time and the polls have now closed in almost half the states and the district of columbia, including 15 states that closed just hometowns ago. >> woodruff: there are now some fresh results to share with you, based on exit polling in key precincts and early returns, the networks have called the state of georgia for mitt romney. this is not a surprise. this is a state that went to john mccain four years ago, but just to recap, the state of kentucky has also been called for governor romney. the state of vermont going to barack obama, again, not a surprise. this is a very blue state. west virginia for governor romney. and i believe we have one other state, south carolina. all of these states so far, again, i guess you would kay, gwen, in the predictable column-- and indiana, one other state we have been able to call-- rather the associated press, or the networks. our
run as a moderate from the get-go. suppose obama had faced down his rival in that first debate the way he faced down hurricane sandy? would have, could have, should have, of 2012. and finally, taking it in the gut. one candidate will suffer a personal and profound loss next tuesday night. either the first african-american president or a man who feels a duty to so many others or the man who wanted to redeem his father's own failed presidential bid long ago. i'm chris matthews. welcome to the show. with us new york magazine's john heilemann. cnn's gloria borger. the grio and msnbc's joy reid. and the huffington post howard fineman. first up, here we are in the time capsule. the weekend before the election asking why is this so close? still so unpredictable. both men face big hurdles to getting elected and that's why it's so close. president obama's got the jobless he inherited but can't quite beat. friday's new jobs report was encouraging but gains are still behind what we need. in a reflection of that, 62% of voters say they would like or want major changes in an obama second term. and
. live look. president obama headquarters in chicago. governor romney in boston. we'll take you there live in a moment. we are getting information on why they vote the way they are. martha maccallum will cover that for us. >> reporter: they are analyzing the response as they come out of the polling places tonight. there are key states like ohio and virginia. the polls are still open for hours as people come home from work and continue to vote. so many areas we haven't heard from yet. what we can tell you for sure so far is that this is a very tight race tonight. let's start with the national poll question. direction of the country. are we on the right track or the wrong track? it's evenly divided. those saying we are on the right direction and going for president obama, no surprise there. 52%, though, say we are headed in the wrong direction. they are backing governor romney. now voters are split on whether the economy is getting better or worse. huge question tonight for everyone, of course. you have about four out of ten states getting better. three of ten say it's getting wor
of the box day before polls coming to you shortly. big city newspapers, obama. small town papers, romney. establishment tv? well, they favor obama big time, no surprise there. in pennsylvania, tens of thousands brave a very cold night to cheer mitt romney. late sunday night, thousands more keep the enthusiasm level up for him in virginia. in new jersey and new york, millions are still reeling or feeling the pain. the president's post storm glow appears to have ended. this is the day before america decides what kind of a country we want. it is a stark choice and "varney & company" about to begin. ♪ [ male announcer ] is is karen anjeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they' gonna fall in love, get married, ve a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some retirement people who are paid on salary, not commission. they'll get straightforward guidance and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rocket scie
obama or challenger mitt romney. >> woodruff: it is just after 7:00 eastern time. polls are beginning to close in the east and the south. in fact, six states closed just txilient ago at the theng using exit polling data and surveys of early voters, the associated press is beginning to project a winner in a number of states. we're going to be watching for that as soon as we get it. i'm told, gwen, we do have one call. the networks, two television networks are projecting the state of kentucky will go for mitt romney which is not a surprise. a state that john mccain won four years ago. >> ifill: not a big surprise. all of these results will-jump-starting the all-important electoral college count. 270 is the magic number one candidate has to reach to become the next president. right now the associated press is predicting nothing because we don't know yet what is going to happen with those electoral votes. but we're waiting. >> woodruff: i just now am being told, gwen, and this information is coming in as we're sitting here. the state of indiana has been projected. mitt romney is projected
, delivered" playing] ♪ >> president obama, the fourth of four states he has been in today, campaigning in bristow, virginia, west of the nation's capital. wrapping up his speech. speaking ahead of him was bill clinton who had been crisscrossing the country speaking for president obama. the last campaign event of the day for the president. we will show you mitt romney's last campaign event of the day and a little bit. first, we will open up the phone lines. here are the numbers -- 585-3885. 202- republicans, 202-585-3886. joanie is on the line from warren, michigan. go ahead. caller: i wanted to say that i believe president obama has done an outstanding job in four years nos been in office with help from the republican party speaking about going over the aisle. i believe in this president. he has done everything that he could possibly do for the economy. and he is moving forward. he's creating new jobs. not only that, he is training people to fit into these new jobs and lower interest rates for our college kids. host: did you early vote? not.r: i have i will be voting on tuesday. caller
a fluke. the set of assumptions the obama campaign was operating on was correct. the set of assumptions the romney campaign was operated on at was nine. obama's theory about the campaign turned out to be correct and the battleground states fell his way. >> north carolina was the only battleground state that romney won. >> that is correct. out.ida is still allowe this year is turned out to be irrelevant. iss? did the republicans m >> practically anybody who was brown or black, procter we anybody who believes that immigration is an issue that needs to be tackled. was a case where the republican party is stampeding towards prevalence if they don't catch up to the new america and the changing demographics. you cannot have a ruling coalition that is virtually all white. you had president obama put together this new rising coalition and put together enough of the old democratic coalition to win. he got more than 7% of hispanics -- 70% of hispanics. young voters. the republicans are missing the idea of trying to expand their percentage of a shrinking electorate. this is becoming a majority- mi
president of the united states. incumbent barack obama or challenger mitt romney. >> woodruff: it is just after 7:00 eastern time. polls are beginning to close in the east and the south. t,t fact, s states closed just a moment ago at theag the hour. using exit polling data and surveys of early voters, the associated press is beginning to project a winner in a number of states. we're going to be watching for that as soon as we get it. i'm told, gwen, we do haveoneon call. the networks, two television networks are projecting the state of kentucky will go for mitt romney which is not a surprise. a state that john mccain won four years ago. >> ifill: not a big surprise. all of these results will-jump-starting the all-important electoral college count. 270 is the magic numberne candidate has to reach to become the next president. right now the associated press is predicting nothing because we don't know yet what is going to happen with those electoral votes. but we're waiting. >> woodruff: i just now am being told, gwen, and this information is comingnn as we're sitting here. the sta of india
. >> and a few moments, president obama'seens your campaign staff talks about election results. and have delmar, more about the election from political analysts charlie cook and stu rothenberg. then senator chuck schumer on the agenda for the upcoming lame duck session of congress. >> he does rolled himself out. he has taken 10 tablets. >> that is ridiculous. >> at some point he could stop breathing. >> where is sgt robert gates today? >> we ended up following him after this plane ride for many and he ended up injuring himself into an innovative program at walter reed, where they ended up using acupuncture, medication, and other techniques to wean him of all the drugs he was on, and for this program he actually was able to walk out of walter reed on his own 2 feet. i really commend the military for allowing us to tell the story, both the good and the bad, but for recognizing the problem, that there is the problem of over medication, and that they are looking for outside the box ideas on how to fix it. that is sort of the whole basis of the film, the status quo is not working and we need to star
they were. >> well, i mean, in the end, obama won by a little more than the polls anticipated. more likely he produced an electorate. whoever won, we would wake up on election day and produce a little different electorate than anticipated. that is what happened. the electorate was more non- white than most polls anticipated. there was that. the debate had a huge impact. the first debate fundamentally changed the race and put romney back with and range. obama was able to stabilize at the end. but romney presented himself as an acceptable alternative. romney was able to walk over the threshold. in the end, he never addressed the demographic challenge. and the third debate he went back on some of the language. he talked about amnesty and deportation and basically ensured that number among hispanics. barack obama increased its share of votes among hispanics. that is a statement more about the republican party than the democratic party. >> that is not two waves. one was out of the democratic convention. that was a surge for the democrats. the second was a chance for the challenger to put himsel
of the country. >> yeah, what do you think? >> i think it'll be obama but it'll be close and that'll be good for everybody. >> okay. well, that's one day. i'm not quite so sure. mark haleprin, though, we've been waiting for these late-breaking polls, republicans have, remembering 1980. the late break didn't come, and if it really did, it broke just slightly toward the president. so these state polls are either skewed or barack obama's going to get another four years. >> narrowly if the polls are right, he'll get a narrow victory. but they're close enough and there's enough volatility in the electorate that i think we should all just wait and see. but certainly -- >> no, let's not do that. >> if you're going on the zeros and ones, the president enters today in the electoral college and the overall landscape, a little bit of an advantage. >> i'm scared to ask, is chuck todd in his command center? or is that just a lie in the script? oh, look, he's here. >> if you turn around and look behind you. >> 5 out of 6. >> i can wave to you. how you doing? you know what's awesome -- how did you make a m
carolina congressman jim clyburn, obama campaign senior adviser david axelrod. virginia governor bob mcdonnell. former ohio governor ted strickland. texas congressman jeb hensarling and bob shrum, a democratic consultant who worked on the kerry and gore campaigns. it is tuesday, november 6th, election day. "starting point" is coming to you live from washington, d.c., and we begin right now. >> welcome, everybody, you're watching a special edition of starting point and cnn's live coverage of election day 2012. the two candidates have been talking for about 17 months now and now it's the american people who will have the final say. these are the states with polls that are opening right now. state of delaware, state of florida, state of georgia, illinois, kansas, louisiana, maryland, massachusetts, michigan, missouri, pennsylvania, rhode island, south carolina, tennessee, and washington, d.c. you're looking at a live picture now from wilmington, delaware, where joe biden is expected to vote at any moment. the vice president then will head to chicago to watch the returns with president obam
unparalleled success. at the u.n. lasher president obama spoke strongly about this thing that the u.s. will support a free and open internet so individuals have information to make up their own money. no one has been more forceful advocate of the economic and social opportunities of the open internet and secretary of state hillary clinton. who delivered a landmark speech of internet freedom in 2010 when she said one of the fundamental freedoms of the internet age was the freedom to connect. the idea that governments should not prevent people from connecting to the internet to websites, or to each other. now, internet freedom is sometimes cited as an obstacle to addressing the issues of cybersecurity and intellectual property theft. i disagree with the. i disagree not because i question the importance of the issues of the magnitude of the threat your very serious problems that we have to address. but i believe based on my experience that we can address those issues without undermining the core values like internet freedom and privacy. we've put our money where our mouths are at the f
to get in line behind president obama. >> that's just silly. >> scared me a little bit. >> i told tom earlier that i disagreed with him. >> shame on him. >> why would you do that? it's like selling your soul. >> i hope his wife understands. >> he brought my wife into it? he's never met me, my wife. >> his wife. >> some of these people have had impure thoughts? >> do you have any impure thoughts about grover norquist? >> it is not about that pledge. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. i will violate the pledge. >> deja vu all over again. >> he will be irrelevant. >> with the end of the world, de deadly dragon, that would be interesting, except it's not true. >> he will be irrelevant and he knows it. >> what started as a bad week for the most famous grover since president cleveland has now gotten worse. the former chair of the house republicans campaign committee. who could always be relied upon to march in lock step with republican leadership has said he now agrees with president obama on taxes. >> we agree with the president on that. >> congressman cole said he thinks the house of rep
. live video from both the obama and romney headquarters. plus, you can get reaction as well. again, join us tonight. we invite you to join us at 8:00 starting on c-span. listen to it on c-span radio. also tune into c-span.org for more information and other information concerning election night 2012. for our first 45 minutes, we want to have you weigh in on why you decided to vote or perhaps why you decided not to vote. and here is how you can best reach us at the bottom of your screen -- you can also put something on our facebook page or tweet us and also you can send us an e-mail. again, for our next 45 minutes why you decided to vote or why you decided not to vote. the headlines from the battle ground state newspaper, the "miami herald," final countdown. polls open at 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. that's the "miami herald." the end of the road, clinton stops here. -- clumps here, romney finishes tonight. the columbus dispatch out of ohio, it's decision time. poll hours, 6:30 a.m., 7:30 p.m. the subhead, the last push. a big choice on the government's role is how they decided to headline the s
for either mr. obama or mr. romney as president beginning in january, 2013 they've repeatedly stated by both of them that a iranian nuclear weapon would be unacceptable, and of course there have them statements here on the hill by congress along the same sorts of lines that wouldn't necessarily have to be a problem given that there is no indication to date as our intelligence agencies tell us that iran has decided so far to build a nuclear weapon but certain aspects of the nuclear program particularly enrichment of uranium have come to be perceived in the the date as having a degree of on accepted devotee of their own and of course the israeli prime minister talks about this constantly to the red line and so forth and having the situation turn into a disaster for whoever's administration it is is a problem mainly of political constraints here in this country rather than any lack of negotiating space between iran and the p5+1 in the united states. he would have to have an agreement allowing some uranium enrichment probably at the no more than 5% level. the outline of the agreement are pretty
proposal by the white house and it is clear that the democrats and president obama cannot could not believe that the republicans would agree to this. so what is going on here? >> well, that's a great question. we are doing this kabuki dance now. obama put this proposal out there so that republicans would have a chance to negotiate with him. he started with this outrageous proposal and look at what we have been able to negotiate. $1.6 trillion in tax increases down to under a trillion dollars. something like that. but there is other thinking that the president simply is not serious -- but he that he wants to go over the cliff and force in 2013, early 2013, put forward after tax rates go up on everyone -- turn around and proposed tax propose tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less p year. and voting against tax cuts for the middle-class. it depends on where you said as to how you see these negotiations playing out right now. megyn: but the white house has maintained in private even to progressive groups, but it does not want to go out thecal cliff. if you believe that? >> it's hard to imag
is beginning to wind down. president obama has been in chicago thinking campaign workers playing his traditional collection day basketball game. mitt romney had stops in pittsburgh and cleveland before returning to boston to watch the returns in a speech to supporters. we have been speaking to reporters the last couple of days here at c-span, finding out what they think is going to happen on election night. >> we're going to see a pretty consistent pattern across the country. it will start in virginia where the polls closed at 7:00 p.m. burgeon as a contested battleground state. a relatively tight race. the bottom line, it will be a close race. they're good at counting votes and we have a pretty good senate race. if we know that virginia is leaning one way or another, or toward one of the senate candidate, we're going to have a pretty good idea of what the rest of the night is good to look for. keep an eye on virginia. that is an early bellwether, canary in the coal mine for what is coming the rest of the night. in a macro sense what i am looking at is -- what we will see on november
after president obama? >> no. >> stephanie: why not? >> because. >> stephanie: okay. >> no, he can't be. >> stephanie: fine, you're constitutional scholars but i'm not. >> the server crashed at 11:13 they bounced over to -- i don't know where they went -- but they were able to keep them from flipping the votes. that's why rove was so stunned. that's why he didn't bother to write -- >> stephanie: somebody said that. wonder if we can hack it back. maybe we did. >> that's what i called for back then. >> stephanie: except for when we did it it wasn't cheating. it was just winning. winning. drinker. what? is it too late for charlie sheenism? the headline is g.o.p.'s benghazi conspiracy falls apart. white house did not change susan rice's -- any apology to susan rice yet? >> it is not the policy. >> stephanie: for you to apologize ever? not the policy for you not to be bitter? >> clouds! >> fox news dropped benghazi yesterday. >> stephanie: interesting. we'll talk about that when we get back. 17 minute
things? is the dream still alive? at the time, and still today, president obama's in the white house, and he's building a legacy of big government. at the same time, american families are worried about one thing -- if they have a job, worried about keeping it, and if they don't have a job, they are worried about getting a job, but in the last four years, what's happened? there was a focus on obamacare, and just constant spending, spending, spending. when i ran for governor in 2010, florida was in a similar position. we had one of the highest unemployment rates in the country. we lost over 700,000 jobs in the four years before that, our debt was going up, relied on the stimulus, but the biggest thing was we were losing jobs all the time. regulation was getting worse, and so the dream was going away, and florida should be the state where you can live the american dream. housing prices collapsed. everybody was worrieded about the future. having lived the american dream, i ran because i'm worried about it for our children. we have two daughters, 27 and 30. we have a grand son. i'm worrie
grand? we, according to press reports, president obama would like to have a grand bargain. the most familiar template of a grand bargain is the simpson-bowles plan written by the two co-chairs of the presidential commission on the budget whose members rejected the very plan that the co-chairs wrote. this is now being pushed by a coalition called fix the debt funded by the billionaire. pete peterson to the tune funded by a number of different corporations particularly in the financial industry but not exclusively. the basic them -- template of that and similar grand bargain deals is that in return for averting the fiscal cliff, averting what some have called more accurately the austerity bomb in the near future, congress will agree to long-term cuts in entitlements which do not include tax expenditures even though people are entitled to them, but they do include social insurance programs as monique pointed out. social insurance, medicare and medicaid. so this all the different versions of a grand bargain, long-term cuts to social security and medicare and medicaid are considered part
. and a speech he gave in new york to lead the way i like to think about is we can remember barack obama's speech in 2004 in the democratic national convention that makes him a national figure in four years later without that speech he isn't a candidate so lincoln gives a speech in new york where it is a beautiful testament to the quality of lincoln's mind in the research he does. it's a fantastic speech. but when he ran for the senate, when barack obama gave a speech in 2004 he was running for the senate in illinois and he won. abraham lincoln ran for the senate in illinois and he lost. you think about abraham lincoln in 1860 think about barack obama running for the presidency in 2008 if he had lost, not if he had won it. that is the level of the national security that we are talking about to read the republican national committee votes for the election and the town's 60. lincoln is from illinois. huge home town advantage but the reason the committee put it in chicago by one vote, they voted to put it in chicago by one vote it could've been in misery because no candidates were from illinois of i
it means for u.s. and china relations and a preview of president obama's trip to cambodia, thailand. your e-mails are live, next. of >> good morning.. the u.s. capitol after returning to washington for three days congress is out for the thanksgiving hall day, but back next week to work on the so-called fiscal cliff. the president in thailand. first stop in a three nation southeast asian tour and as part of the debate over the debt and government programs include social security, medicare and medicaid. aarp saying social security and medicare should not be cut as part of the debate over the 16 trillion over all debt. we'll get your thoughts our phone lines are open at (202) 737-0001 and (202) 737-0002 for republicans if you're an independent. (202) 628-0205, 3382 i'm sorry. headlines on this sunday morning. flames of rage. israel shoots down hamas missiles and we'll have more on this late in the program and the calculating the cliff. cover of cq weekly. republicans are talking about higher taxes as the president presses issue. and then there's this story from the "washington post". h
and all is coming at a time when the obama administration has cut the defense budget, projecting over the ten-year period by some $487 billion and if the obama sequestration were to become a reality that would be a trillion dollars over this period of time coming out of our defense budget, even -- even the secretary of defense, the obama secretary of defense said it would be devastating. he used the word devastating. if that were not enough the obama administration continues to force the military to spend greater proportions of its already depleted funds on a gene energy agenda to include the purchase of biofuels for operational use in construction of commercial biofuel refineries. now, you know, i fully support development and use of alternative fuels including klug biofuels but not at the expense of the military. the focus should be on the readiness of the navy, not on propping up the biofuels industry. i have to remind everyone, we've a bureaucracy called the department of energy. they're the ones supposed to be doing all this experimentation we talk about. the navy according to th
senators. president obama and vice president biden are back in their offices. we have had new office holders elected in many states and local communities as well. and while we have a lot of change in the elected offices, we all know that a big part of government relates to what we refer to as the executive branch and that means various departments of government and agencies within those departments of government. and those people work very hard. they are committed to the american people. they are not elected. and many times we do not even know who they are. now, today i want to raise an issue that is vitally important to all of the american people. because on or about december 10, the levels of water on the mississippi river are going to be so shallow between st. louis, missouri, and cairo, illinois, and then on top of that because of rock tentacles between red tower and theebs, illinois, that river traffic may come to a halt on the mississippi river. and that means there's going to be millions of tons of commodities that are not going to be able to be transported north and south on
. the speech he gave in new york, the way i like to think about it is we all remember barack obama speech in 2004. this dazzling rhetorical masterpiece that instantly makes him a national figure and four years later without that speech is not a plausible candidate. lincoln gives a dazzling speech in new york at the cooper union. it's a beautiful testament to the quality of lincoln's research he does. it's it is well worthy of praise but when he ran for the senate when barack obama gave a speech in 2004 he was running for the senate in illinois and he one. abraham lincoln ran for the senate in illinois and he lost. if you want to think about abraham lincoln in 1860 think about barack obama running for the presidency in 2008. if he had lost the illinois senate election, none of the iguana, that is the level of national security we are talking about here. the republican national committee votes to put the republican convention in chicago so in illinois lincoln -- lincoln is from illinois, the land of lincoln. a huge hometown advantage but the reason the committee puts it in chicago by one fo
i think about it is we can remember barack obama's speech in 2004, this -- the democratic national convention, a dazzling rhetorical masterpiece making him a national figure, and four years later, was without that speech, he's not a candidate for the presidency. lincoln gives a dazzling speech in new york, the cooper union speech. it is a beautiful testament to the quality of lincoln's minute, the research he does, the logical argument. it's a great speech. well worthy of praise, but when he ran for the senate, when barack obama gave a speech in 2004, he was running for the senate in illinois and won. lincoln ran for the senate in illinois, and he lost. did you want to think about lincoln in 1860, think about barack obama running for the presidency in 2008, if he had lost the illinois senate election, not if he had won it. that's the level of national obscurity we are talking about here. the election itself, the republican national committee, votes to put the republican convention in chicago in 1860. lincoln's from illinois, huge hometown advantage for lincoln, but the reason the c
and president obama and even his vice president for coming out of the closet as an openly straight politician who is in favor of marriage equality. and we saw the results in the 2012 election. this did not cause president obama the election, it probably helped him. he had a healthy margin of victory of the popular vote. his margin was larger than his larger -- that his margin of victory. there are lots of groups you could say it about, but is also true of lesbian and gay voters. the issue almost certainly helped president obama and did not hurt president obama. the lesson is not lost on the republican party. here are my concluding thoughts. it is a complicated history to were the long road of marriage equality, the beginning is a complicated answer about backlash and the popular analysis of what is going on politically. what i want to conclude with, this has been neglected by the backlash theorists, how the courts have advanced marriage equality. i think there have been three things about what the courts have done. from my point of view, the most important is a fantastically important setting
obama allows it to happen, what kind of catastrophe are you talking about? i'm kind of concerned? so negatively will this affect the industry? how bad will it really be out there on wall street and main street? >> guest: well, let's say there are a bunch of people where the congress is involved, democrats and republicans have a role to play in whether we resolve this or not. the fact that we litigate to this extent, we are leaving the american people what the risks exposed with the fiscal squibb on time, it wants be outraged that it's generated. the fiscal cliff is a problem. you go over the cliff and the consequences can be beautiful% of gdp growth due to automatic cuts by six or $700 billion. the day after that, the market could fall seven or 800 points but washington will get the message. what i fear and what i think is the risk is that they will fix it with a patch that is short-term, it's not substantive, it doesn't have a lot of nutritional content to it and we are going to be right back in again and again. markets will lose confidence. we will gradually lose our global credibi
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